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Dave53-7C Mr. 3000


Joined: Jan 31, 2007 Posts: 4253 Location: Outside Chicago
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 2:01 pm Post subject: 1951 Hornet coupe |
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Looks like the previous owner ran out of money. With the exception of the headliner, that interior would have to go. The interior chrome ranges from rusty to pitted. Obiously, the engine compartment needs help. Original trunk carpet my butt. Spend some money on new trunk weather stripping and paint touch-up. The paint near the drivers side scuff shield looks crusty. Looks like the car got a quick repaint and reupholstery job. OK, what did I miss?
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51hornet Chief Mechanic


Joined: Apr 19, 2005 Posts: 4416 Location: Edmonton Alberta Canada
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 2:29 pm Post subject: Re: 1951 Hornet coupe |
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They will want big bucks for this as they think the exterior looks good in pics. The engine is leaking in a few spots. Head and carbs. The interior is not original neither is the trunk or the paint. The chrome on the car is in need of a redo. The hood emblem V is chromed instead of gold plated. The wood graining has been redone and is the wrong style for 51. The usual BS ad verbiage that you expect from someone piecing together an ad from info off the Internet. Still a nice looking car and something a person who does not know Hudsons would bid up.
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Dave53-7C Mr. 3000


Joined: Jan 31, 2007 Posts: 4253 Location: Outside Chicago
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 5:24 pm Post subject: Re: 1951 Hornet coupe |
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True, someone who doesn't know Hudsons will probably over-pay for this car. I think that the lack of detailed info regarding the chassis, mechanicals and electrical system is concerning. Personally, I'd like to know about the chassis, suspension, trans, engine and brakes. Although moderate detailing on this car would probably set one back a few thousand, a professional engine, trans and suspension rebuild could easily top $15k.
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Dave53-7C Mr. 3000


Joined: Jan 31, 2007 Posts: 4253 Location: Outside Chicago
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 8:51 pm Post subject: Re: 1951 Hornet coupe |
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Bid up to $13K. Seller ended auction.
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hudsonkid Hornet


Joined: Jan 31, 2007 Posts: 293 Location: Ephrata, PA
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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:13 am Post subject: Re: 1951 Hornet coupe |
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| you know what bothered me most about this car? is the rechromed emblems that were all pock marked. The car looks decent, but needs some money to be taken to the next level. Sad, this car needs all the stuff that someone thinks is good, replaced, because the quality of the items done to the car, is not there....
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51hornet Chief Mechanic


Joined: Apr 19, 2005 Posts: 4416 Location: Edmonton Alberta Canada
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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:15 am Post subject: Re: 1951 Hornet coupe |
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Yes you can see the bumpers are pretty dull and the interior is definitely not original. Still when you see it in the pics you think nice and most novices would say yeah nice. They want 30K+ for sure on this.
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Dave53-7C Mr. 3000


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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:30 am Post subject: Re: 1951 Hornet coupe |
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Gee, I bet I know where the pitted and dull chrome came from! Look at the chrome sleeve for the steering column, it's pure rust. At first, I though this car looked good. But as I looked through the pics, it became apparent that this was a quick fluff job, one meant to dazzle the eye. The things that are not done, or are poorly done, jump out at you when compared to the fresh paint and (ugly) new interior. Even if someone would have spent a day and a few hundred dollars on supplies, they could have presented this car in a much better light.
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51hornet Chief Mechanic


Joined: Apr 19, 2005 Posts: 4416 Location: Edmonton Alberta Canada
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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:32 am Post subject: Re: 1951 Hornet coupe |
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Overspray on the tranny is not good and they did a poor job of the paint on the firewall.
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Dave53-7C Mr. 3000


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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:45 am Post subject: Re: 1951 Hornet coupe |
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Could the trans be out of a 54? Where the 54 transmissions painted red like the engines?
I wonder why the seller ended the auction. He probably reads all the Hudson forums. LOL
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51hornet Chief Mechanic


Joined: Apr 19, 2005 Posts: 4416 Location: Edmonton Alberta Canada
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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:51 am Post subject: Re: 1951 Hornet coupe |
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Rumor has it car sold for under 30K I would prefer to get it before they tried the quick sell treatment then could have bought it reasonably and redone to new. Now buyer just lives with it or fixes it for bucks.
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Dave53-7C Mr. 3000


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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:57 am Post subject: Re: 1951 Hornet coupe |
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Maybe I'm behind the times when it comes to Hudson prices, but $30k for this car seems steep. IMO, the only thing that 'appears' to be of value is the paint job (if done well over solid metal) and the wwls. However, I've come across a 53 Hornet 4dr, restored to a very high standard, with an asking price of $32,000.00!
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Zephyrmec Hornet


Joined: Aug 19, 2007 Posts: 623
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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:21 pm Post subject: Re: 1951 Hornet coupe |
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| Overspray on the drivers side sillplate? interior chrome shiny but ready to explode from underneath, nice driver and tour car, if it runs right and the tranny is OK. Not even near show quality. If the $13K was a real deal, the seller did well. If there aren't any hidden surprizes, the buyer did ok, as long as he doesn't think that it's a show car. I love that vertical pattern woodgraining! The lowrider craze bumped the value of Hudsons up quite a bit for a while, as did the movie "Cars", but it looks to be settling back down some, as it is with all makes.
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Dave53-7C Mr. 3000


Joined: Jan 31, 2007 Posts: 4253 Location: Outside Chicago
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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:38 pm Post subject: Re: 1951 Hornet coupe |
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Although some conditions were unknown and other things appeared questionable, the car reportedly sold for just under $30,000.00! Although the BJ buyers never seem to run out of moola, the market for old cars has slowed at the grass roots level. Even if nothing appears to have changed (financially) for the average household, home values have declined and energy prices continue to rise. Consumer confidence is at an all time low. I think it will be a while before we see a turn about.
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51hornet Chief Mechanic


Joined: Apr 19, 2005 Posts: 4416 Location: Edmonton Alberta Canada
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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 3:56 pm Post subject: Re: 1951 Hornet coupe |
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Now it seems that it did not sell and he will re-list. I want to see the underside of that car.
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Dave53-7C Mr. 3000


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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:10 pm Post subject: Re: 1951 Hornet coupe |
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Oh, the drama! Let me know when you want to meet in Boston. We'll crawl around on the ground and then go for a nice bowl of chowda.
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