engine identification

56starfire · Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 8:53 pm Post subject: engine identification

Hi,
I have a 49 hudson super 6 and I've been told I do not have the correct engine in it for the year, can anyone identify it, I have casting numbers and stamped #'s off the block and head, the head is cast iron.

One the passenger side of the block and upper front has 33528 stamped on it
Under the distributor is casting numbers 304539 and under this is CWC and under that is 1
One the head is cast 309121 then CWC and the 308

There was a guy that was familiar with hudson's but it was years ago and he thought it might be the hornet engine.

Any help would be appreciated
Thanks
Mike

51hornet · Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 12:58 am Post subject: Re: engine identification

A 49 Super Six should have a 262 in it. Its a pretty quick check to see if you have the Hornet 308 in it. Look at the engine, look down at the pan up 2 inches from that on the side of the engine you will see a horizontal reinforcing rib along the length of the engine. If this is there you have a 308 out of a Hornet. If its not there you most likely still have the 262.

Also as you may know the serial number stamped on the plate on the passenger side front door pillar should match the engine number if the engine came from the factory in that car.

56starfire · Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 6:12 am Post subject: Re: engine identification

Thank you, I'll check for the reinforcement ribs, I know the serial numbers do not match, I have checked that already, I thought the casting numbers might give a clue to the actual engine. Any way thanks for the reply, I will try and post pictures of the 49 some day, it is just a running and driving car that has had a partial restoration many years ago and been stored for many years. I bought it from an estate after the owner passed away, it is supposed to have the original miles that show on the odometer 65,000. I have only tinkered around with it to get it running. I think I need to adjust the shift linkage as it wants to jump out of 2nd and reverse when you let off the accelerator, is anyone familiar with this and know what i should do to correct it.
Thanks
Mike

51hornet · Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 7:37 am Post subject: Re: engine identification

The fact the engine has a 308 head suggests its a Hornet engine. This was a pretty popular swap back in the day.

Do you have the 3spd standard? or is it the hydramatic?

56starfire · Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 3:24 pm Post subject: Re: engine identification

I checked and it does have the reinforcement ribs on both sides of the block, it does not have the dual carb set and no oil bath air cleaner. The transmission is 3 speed w/ overdrive.

51hornet · Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 7:15 pm Post subject: Re: engine identification

Ok cool so you have the 308 Hornet engine.

You are right you have to adjust the shifter linkage. You may have to open the box and make sure the shifter forks are not worn to much or are not adjusted correctly.

nhegna · Jet Joined: Nov 03, 2010 Posts: 1

Sounds impossible but I have an engine with the same block and head casting numbers.

I wonder if you have found out what year and application it is ...

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51hornet · Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 3:19 pm Post subject: Re: engine identification

What Hudson is this engine in? what are the numbers and what else is on the head?

Cubic Inch indicators are 202 (Jet) 232 (Pacemaker, Wasp) 262 (Wasp, Super Wasp, Super Six, Commodore Six) 308 (Hornet) 254 Eight Cylinder(Super Eight, Commodore)

Pic would also be helpful

james007 · Jet Joined: Nov 14, 2010 Posts: 1

I have a chance to get a 1953 club coupe but it has no Engine! how hard are they to find?

51hornet · Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 3:32 am Post subject: Re: engine identification

You mean the engine or the car? car is rare you could get an engine for it without too much trouble.

pjiii · Jet Joined: Aug 23, 2011 Posts: 1

i recently bought 1941 Hudson Pick-up. The title shows a VIN# 32TR1585. I've not been able to find this anywhere on the vehicle yet - (doors, door frames etc.) It is a 6 cyl. single-carb. ON the flat head it says Power Dome. ON the block below the water-jacket access panel is 165610 CWC 2.

Can anyone help me identify what engine this is and what model Hudson I have? The brake lights don't go on when I step on the brakes. I've checked and the circuit works so it looks like a bad relay unit. Where could I buy a new one?

Thanks in advance for any help offered!

51hornet · Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 2:45 pm Post subject: Re: engine identification

To look for the Vin it should be a plate attached over the top hinge of the passenger door. If its not there you can look under the hood also on the passenger side and it will be stamped on the frame near where the A arm attaches.

This year of truck came with 2 engines the 175 and the 212.

To get a new relay I would contact Dave Kostansek at 440-293-4079

I will check the numbers you provided and check back to you.

51hornet · Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 5:23 pm Post subject: Re: engine identification

Ok I asked a buddy who knows all about the Hudson serial numbers. He said your VIN is not a Hudson VIN of Engine number (Some states registered the engine serial number as VIN) but a State generated VIN due to probably loss of the VIN plate.

As for identifying the engine you have you need to check the wheel base as the following is how you identify which engine you have.

If the truck is a Model 10C (Business Cars) then it has the 175 engine and is on a 116" (short) wheelbase - if it's a Model 18C Big Boy it has the 212 engine and is on a 128" (long) wheelbase. The difference is quite obvious.

Hope that helps you figure out what you have. Also if you pull the actually VIN from the top of the front frame rail we can have him check that for you.